I've always understood the argument between Achilles and Agamemnon to be that Agamemnon didn't insult one but two priests. Then, to compound the insult, he threatened to withhold the treasures from those who had voluntarily joined him in battle. When that didn't work, he threatened to take back what he had already given.
From what I remember, Achilles was angry because while he was fighting every day, Agamemnon sat on his ass and didn't lift a hand.
Those things all happened, if you count the seer Calchus as a priest. But Achilles didn't get involved when Agamemnon sent the priest of Apollo away. The soldiers all wanted Agamemnon to take the ransom and return the girl, which I think at that point he could have done, without losing rank or honor. But he insulted the priest, so Apollo sent a plague on the army.
That's when Achilles brought out the second holy man, the Greek seer Calchus, whom he also insulted, when he said he had to return the girl for free. Agamemnon said he needed to be compensated, and where I think it started to be about rank and honor. That's the part you're talking about where he threatened to take loot that had already been distributed to the men, and Achilles told him to have patience and he'd get his share two and three times over.
Then Agamemnon threatened to specifically take a captive woman from Ajax, Ulysses, or Achilles, which is when Achilles got ANGRY, and pointed out how he, like many others, were volunteers in this for glory, not revenge, and said that Agamemnon shirked in battle. Which of course led to Agamemnon insisting on Achilles's woman in particular.
There's some pretty awesome insulting going back and forth. At one point, Achilles tells Agamemnon: "You've never had the kidney to buckle on armor among the troops, or make a sortie with picked men -- oh, no; that way death might lie."
I've always understood the argument between Achilles and Agamemnon to be that Agamemnon didn't insult one but two priests. Then, to compound the insult, he threatened to withhold the treasures from those who had voluntarily joined him in battle. When that didn't work, he threatened to take back what he had already given.
From what I remember, Achilles was angry because while he was fighting every day, Agamemnon sat on his ass and didn't lift a hand.
Those things all happened, if you count the seer Calchus as a priest. But Achilles didn't get involved when Agamemnon sent the priest of Apollo away. The soldiers all wanted Agamemnon to take the ransom and return the girl, which I think at that point he could have done, without losing rank or honor. But he insulted the priest, so Apollo sent a plague on the army.
That's when Achilles brought out the second holy man, the Greek seer Calchus, whom he also insulted, when he said he had to return the girl for free. Agamemnon said he needed to be compensated, and where I think it started to be about rank and honor. That's the part you're talking about where he threatened to take loot that had already been distributed to the men, and Achilles told him to have patience and he'd get his share two and three times over.
Then Agamemnon threatened to specifically take a captive woman from Ajax, Ulysses, or Achilles, which is when Achilles got ANGRY, and pointed out how he, like many others, were volunteers in this for glory, not revenge, and said that Agamemnon shirked in battle. Which of course led to Agamemnon insisting on Achilles's woman in particular.
There's some pretty awesome insulting going back and forth. At one point, Achilles tells Agamemnon: "You've never had the kidney to buckle on armor among the troops, or make a sortie with picked men -- oh, no; that way death might lie."
Thank you for the shoutout.